This episode of The Veil Between dives deep into the raw, often "dark" reality of spiritual awakening, moving beyond the "light and fluffy" tropes to address the genuine pain, chaos, and isolation many experience. Hosts Guy Quintero and Danica Simone offer a grounded "plan of attack" for those feeling overwhelmed by world events like the Epstein files or struggling with a crumbling sense of self. We explore the importance of energetic balance—using the concept of "Melchizedek’s Fire" to transform righteous anger into positive action—and provide practical advice on protecting your home sanctuary and safeguarding your sanity. You are not alone in this "apocalypse" of the self; we are here to help you find your footing, maintain your frequency, and navigate the birth pains of a new consciousness.

Transcript & Show Notes

00:00 - Is Your Spiritual Awakening Dark?

Guy Quintero: There's a place where the living and the dead trade whispers.

Danica Simone: Where shadows don't just follow, they watch.

Guy: Where one thin barrier holds back what waits on the other side.

Simone: You've stepped into…

Guy & Simone: The Veil Between.

Simone: What you're about to hear drifts between fact, belief, and the unknown. The Veil Between is for entertainment purposes only.

Guy: Our stories, research, and experiences are our own, not medical, legal, or professional advice.

Simone: So step carefully and remember…

Guy & Simone: The choice to believe is always yours.

00:28 - How to Stay Sane During Spiritual Growth

Simone: Welcome back to The Veil Between podcast, my fellow Veil Walkers, Veil Seekers, and other family. Hope everyone's having a great day, and we are here today to talk about… a few episodes back, I was spiraling over all the things that was coming to light with the food and all the lies and everything coming to light. And I've been seeing, and you as well have been seeing, a lot of people going through their awakening journey ever since, really, the Epstein files came out, and just, you know, seeing all the lies, having to deal with them.

So today we're going to talk about, I don't really know how to put it into words other than just to say we're talking about the awakening journey and how it is not the light and fluffy peaceful journey that people like to pretend it is. It's dark, it hurts, and you question your sanity, and you kind of ask yourself what the fuck are we here for? What's the fucking point?

Everything's fucking rigged against us. Everything is a struggle. We have to fight tooth and nail for everything. It feels daunting. And some days you would rather just stick your head in the sand and praise that ignorance is bliss. And at a certain point, you have to stop digging, right? At a certain point, you have to stop falling down the rabbit hole because you know if you, like, everyone has a line. If you cross that line, there is, you know, there is no coming back from that. Like, you know what I mean?

The point of no return, where it's just nothing but negativity, and feels doom and gloom, and the end of the world, and the apocalypse. And it's just, and by apocalypse, I mean like, of your sense of self. Your whole life has been a lie, and you question what, what's real and what's not, and who am I really?

And so we're going to talk about that. And then we're going to talk about how to keep your sanity and reel it in and not let it get to you because, like we've said, Guy and I have both said on previous episodes, when you're in those negative state-of-mind, frequencies, emotions, that opens the doorway to infiltration, infestation, and ultimately possession. So it's good to learn the truth. But you also have to know when to not let it impact your daily life and your sanity and move on. Because at the end of the day, you have to realize that you can't control anything. Nothing's in your control, like as far as the government, and the medicine, and the food, and all this…

Only thing that you can control is yourself. So, you know, you can be conscious and eat healthy, choose foods, look at the labels, choose foods that are made with all-natural ingredients and no weird chemicals, and formaldehyde, and all the stuff. And keep your home as your personal sanctuary. Don't just let anybody in. You don't know who people are. Dahmer's neighbors were like, “He was a nice guy!” You don't know. You don't know who your people are, who your neighbors are, who your coworkers are, unless you, like, are with them 24-7. You don't know who they are. If you want your sanity, just keep your house on lockdown. Be careful with who you let in. Sorry, that was like an immediate rant!

Guy: Well, no, you're absolutely right. Your peace is priceless. You have to protect your energy. And that's really the essence of life. Life is the interaction of energies. That's really what it all comes down to in its most primordial form, right? It's kinetic energy and motion. And what energies you decide to let into your world will shape the world that you exist, which will ultimately have an effect in shaping the nominal world, the objective world. Your mind is a very precious thing, and so is your soul. Those two things are very precious. This is the reason why the controllers, the forces of darkness, they vie so much for control of those two aspects, right? They put a machine together, the media, that is worth trillions of dollars, right?

The food they try to feed us is poison, and the majority of the poison is aimed at your mind, your brain, to dumb you down, to make you docile, weak, complacent, lethargic. All of these things are because they're trying to control your mind. The psyche is the most valuable thing in this world. Even to the point where they would go through such lengths to build such networks worth trillions of dollars, worth limitless resources, and creating a network that is so intricate, so vast, that it is a literal machine. Your mind is the most important thing, and it shapes the world. The first thing you learn about when you become a magician is thoughts create the universe. Your thoughts, in particular, create your universe.

So if they can control it, harness it, they're able to manipulate you into creating the world that they want. This is the reason why you have to be careful with the pitfalls of this awakening. See, they're trying to control the awakening as well. You have to be careful with that by showing you the negative aspects of it. Now, the Bible told us that knowledge will become plentiful in the last days. There'd be a great awakening, that the lies of the serpent, Lucifer, would eventually unravel. That's happening now, but one of the things that the serpent and her networks are doing in the death throes are trying to plunge you in a negative state, send you further down, right? Further down into a low vibrational frequency to contribute to the world they want to create, which is a low vibrational frequency world.

This is why they work so hard to terraform our planet, both etherically and physically, into something of their ideals, because they're trying to drag you down to hell, literally. This is why you have to protect your thoughts and protect the energy... The energy that you project as well as the energy that you absorb. Okay, so Simone's right. Be careful who you let in. Guard yourself, but not to the point where you become cruel to others. This is the balance of things.

06:44 - Ancient Symbols Explained: Star of David vs Remphan

Guy: When you look at the Star of David, which has been demonized. Magen David, right? It's been demonized by those who don't understand it. There's a triangle pointing up, positive frequency, a triangle pointing down. That's the essence of life right there. Positive and negative frequency, right there. Rising up and lowering. There's a lot of arcane aspects to that symbol that the ignorant do not understand. They simply write it off as, "Oh, it's just a Jewish symbol,” right? Or it's the, I've heard some other ridiculous things. “Oh, it's the Star of Remphan.” That's not the Star of Remphan. The Star of Remphan is the upside-down five-pointed pentacle. That's what it is. It's old. It's very old, older than you can know. And the reason why is because Remphan, also known as Moloch, was a bull-headed god. So if you turn this thing upside down, what you see is you have horns, ears, nose. There it is, right there.

So, a lot of ignorant people, Candace Owens, a few other people, “Star of David is evil.” It's not evil. It goes back to the Magi, who are much older than the current Westernized Christianity that we have right now. Much older. It goes further back. And it's been around the world as well. It's a positive symbol that symbolizes life, and God, and the universe that we live in.

07:56 - How Spiritual Talismans Protect Your Energy

Guy: That's what it means. So positive and negative imbalance. That is one aspect of that symbol that you need to apply. When you look at these talismans, we talked about talismans before. Positive and negative imbalance. These talismans always have energy behind them, behind the programming that's within them, whether you realize it or not. Your mind acknowledges it even on levels that are beyond the immediate consciousness. The subconscious can recognize it, and the super conscious recognizes it as well. So the reason why I mentioned that, the Star of David, positive and negative, is you have to be like that.

08:22 - Finding Balance: Light and Dark Energies

Guy: You have to be centered and grounded. That's how you survive what's coming. Because if you plunge yourself into a low state, you're going to become what they want you to become. You're going to be in a negative state, generating a negative world. But if you choose to ignore it and you choose to go too high, well, you're going to blind yourself to everything that's happening. So a lot of individuals out there who say, evil doesn't exist. And they are blind to the machinations of what happens around them. They are blind to the evil that's transpiring around them. Evil does exist because, without good, there cannot be evil and vice versa.

Another talisman that's very important to the arcane is yin and yang, positive and negative, light and dark. You have to understand that it all coincides together. Maintaining balance and being grounded is how you survive a very painful awakening. And humanity is going through what the Bible has called birth pains. These are birth pains. The Bible references in Revelation as birth pains.

Simone: Sorry, I hadn't heard that before. That's funny.

Guy: That's exactly what it's referenced as in scripture, birth pains. And that's what we're going through right now. I see people getting angry, raging out in the comments, at each other, at themselves. I understand. I've been there.

09:41 - Signs You Are Seeing Through the Veil

Simone: There's a video going around on TikTok, and I think YouTube. This gentleman was at the airport. This was right after the release of the Epstein files. And he loses it. He loses it in front of an entire airport, in front of all these people. And he's like, “How are you guys just sitting here and pretending like nothing happened, you're all like sheep, and you're all asleep, and like, how can you read these Epstein files and just sit here and act like nothing's changed, nothing's happened?!” and he's like losing it.

And then several years back, on an airplane, there was this woman who was freaking out. She was in the aisle, and she was screaming, and like a few people were like holding her back, trying to like escort her off the plane. And she was screaming at this person, saying, “They're not human, they're not human. That's not a human right there. Look at it. Look at it. That's not a human!” She's losing her mind, and they escort her off the plane. And after a while, she actually came forward and did another video and apologized for the way she acted, for her behavior. I wouldn't apologize for that. I mean, she saw through the veil. She saw something that no one else saw, or recognized, or acknowledged. You know, like that was her awakening moment. She saw something, you know, but I don't know.

She had to appease certain people. They were like, if you want to function in society, if you don't want to get locked up or whatever, you know, they had to threaten her in some way. Or maybe just a lot of people got together and just shunned her and criticized her, that she was like, all right, I had to say something. Maybe for her own sanity and for her to continue life, like as a normal person, like to not be shunned and outcast and everything, maybe, maybe that was the lesser of two evils to just be like, I'll just suck it up. I'll just apologize. But I still know the truth.

Guy: Yeah. And, you know, that makes me think of a lot of things, but well, the first that comes to mind is, exactly, everyone wakes up in their own time. Right?

11:33 - The Truth About the Epstein Files & Awakening

Guy: Some people are waking up early, and they're freaking out because others are still plugged in; they can't see it.

Simone: Yeah.

Guy: Right? Or others are plugged in, they can't see it, they don't know what to do.

Simone: I think with all the disclosure happening, especially with the Epstein files, it's forcing people who didn't want to wake up. It's forcing them. Some of these people, like I said, ignorance is bliss. It's true. Some of these people… You know, you and I have been in this life for decades, and people always look at us crazy. I'll talk to my coworkers, and they look at me crazy. They act like I'm a crazy person.

Guy: Until they need help.

Simone: Yeah. Until they need help, and they're like, I know who to go to. So all these people that have been in my life in the past, coworkers, friends, even family, they hear what I say, and they choose to either write it off as I'm just a kook or they just don't want to know. They're like, “Yeah, I'm sure that stuff is happening, but I don't want to know.” Because they know their psyche will shatter. If they acknowledge it, they're like, “If I go down this rabbit hole, there's no telling where it's going to stop, where it's going to end, and I can't handle that right now.” And they know, they know that's their limit. They can't, they cannot handle it right now, so they choose to stay head in the sand.

12:57 - Spiritual Lessons from The Matrix Movie

Guy: Yeah, and there's a lot of people like that who, it's a defense mechanism.

Simone: Right.

Guy: It's a defense mechanism, because some people, not everyone can handle it. Morpheus was telling Neo in ‘The Matrix,’ some of these people can't handle being unplugged. They can't.

Simone: Yeah, like that one guy who betrays them just to get back in.

Guy: Some of them will try to attack you to protect the system.

Simone: Yeah.

Guy: And so there's a lot of things…

Simone: Not because they're trying to protect the system, it's because they're trying to protect their identity and their sense of self.

Guy: Their psyche, sense of self, yeah, what they know.

Simone: Yeah.

Guy: And that's not their fault. It's not.

Simone: I mean, we've been fed a lie our entire life.

Guy: Yeah. That's not their fault. A lot of people are brainwashed. I used to get upset at them. I was like, how can you be this dumb? But then, after a while, it's like I start to realize they're victims too.

Simone: They don't want to feel the pain.

Guy: They don't want to feel the pain, yeah.

Simone: You said, like the Bible says, it's birthing pain.

Guy: No one wants to go through the pain.

Simone: To bring about change, to bring about a life is painful.

Guy: Everyone has a different threshold for pain, too. So that's different. I know some people who can deal with it all, and some people can't. You know, in the service, a lot of people with PTSD, they will have patches in their memory. They don't remember anything. Like it never happened. And that's their brain going into a self-defense mechanism to protect them from a traumatic event.

Simone: I must have a lot of PTSD because I don't remember shit.

Guy: Yeah, that's why a lot of veterans, they have memory problems because that's the PTSD kicking in and it protects. But it also it causes problems because the brain could also shut down short-term memory, long-term memory, and it causes a lot of holes. And this is the reason why we have something called vet brain, where the memory is just completely awful. And so that's the brain going in defense mode. But the brain is chemicals and electrical signals. So some of those bleed over into other aspects of their life. But yeah, it's very real.

But so going back to what I was saying, you know, Jesus says, you can't win through strength of arms. You're not gonna win. We're watching them right now as of this date obliterate another nation. They're just conquering Iran right now effortlessly. The global elite has the most powerful army in the world. You're not gonna stop them through strength of arms. Only God can do that when He's ready.

So what do you do? You have to worry about you. Okay, I know this sounds crazy and selfish, but a lot of these people out here, one of the things I notice is that you have a certain individual who says, “I have to wake up, I have to save everyone.” No, you don't. You don't have to save everyone. Jesus already saved everyone. Well, your job is to make sure that you keep yourself mentally, spiritually, and if you can, physically as clean as possible for the time where you ascend and go join God in the kingdom.

That's your job, to make sure you don't sell your soul or your mind to this evil, to stay balanced and focused. And that's your job. Everyone has this crazy idea, this delusion, “Well, God needs me.” God doesn't need you to do anything. God's the most powerful being in the universe. That's your ego talking.

Simone: Well, and also, you've said, this is not God's realm. This is Lucifer's realm. This is Lucifer's playground. God doesn't want us to be here. So why would He want anything from you in this iteration of yourself, on this plane?

Guy: The only thing God wants you to do is join Him. That's what God wants. That's the only thing I can tell you 100% that I know about what God wants. I can't speak for God except for on that. I know for a fact that God wants everyone to be with Him in paradise.

16:23 - Finding Your Life Purpose and Lessons

Simone: With that comes, I do believe that we each have a life lesson we need to learn to ascend, to become a better human, and a life purpose. We do have a purpose, but it's also tied to your life lesson. Usually, what you spend your life struggling with to overcome and to learn from, that is your life lesson, then becomes your life purpose. Once you learn it, you teach it. You teach it to other people who need help, just like you did. And I think that's why I do the cleansings and help, because that was a battle I had to go through, and I won. And now I have the tools and the ability to teach you how to do the same and how to protect yourself through psychic self-defense.

But the point is, like Guy said, all you can control is yourself and your family, your children. You can't control your spouse, not even your spouse, you know what I mean? All you can control is yourself and your children. Keep your children safe and protected up until a certain age, and then they have a mind of their own, and they do their own thing. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, all you can do is control yourself. That's all you can do. Be the best person of yourself.

17:35 - Why Protecting Your Energy Isn't Selfish

Simone: That's not selfish. That is keeping your sanity. Because trying to change anything else, the government, the food industry, the medical industry, you're just banging your head on a wall. You cannot change anything.

17:54 - How to Handle Anger During Awakening

Guy: Yeah. And like Jesus says, you can't judge anyone because until you walk a mile in their shoes, that's impossible. Everyone has their own battle here on earth. Everyone's dealing with their own vices, their own demons, their own pitfalls. And so you have to try to maneuver it as best you can. It's hard.

The Bible gives a lot of lessons in the arcane, a lot of lessons in life. One of the main lessons, one of the main lessons is that you should always retain a balance. Stay balanced in everything that you do. That's how you're going to survive what's coming. Because one of the reasons why, and they control the media, one of the reasons why they're releasing the Epstein files and all of this information for The Great Awakening is, this is once again, another one of Lucifer's plots, is to upset you. That's the goal. Piss you off and send you spiraling out of control. And then a myriad of things unfolds. A ripple effect, right? Throw a stone in a pond, and it just sends ripples out everywhere.

So, a perfect example, like you brought up, that woman, she went crazy. Now she looks kooky. Now people awakening look kooky, right? So now the self-pleasing starts kicking in. The self-pleasing David Ike talked about, that starts kicking in. Now look at all these kooky people awakening, right? All these awakeners, these individuals who are spiritual are now considered kooky to the mainstream. That's one of the reasons, that's another reason. Now you have a lot of people losing their minds and they're starting to attack people and lashing out, which is causing further separation and division.

So you have to be careful how you, you can fall into their plan, which is to drag you down lower with this information, to bring you to their realm. So you have to be careful, maintain a balance, don't get too angry. Let the anger stay righteous, right? So what would you do with this anger? So what we do is we call the, we will look at Melchizedek’s Fire, right? It's one of the lessons you learn as a magician. The inner fire, right? The inner fire of the soul. How do you take that energy you have and you turn it into something else? This is the essence of the inner fire alchemy.

So I see something, it angers me. Now, if I don't take this anger, this negative energy, and do something with it, positive, it's going to drag me to a lower frequency to make me do something that I'm probably gonna regret, which is lash out at my fellow human beings on the airplane. And I might see a demon. She probably did see one, I don't doubt it at all. But now I'm freaking out, I'm lashing out at these other human beings around me who don't see it are freaking out. Now, what's going on? So what I would advise is this, use that inner fire, Melchizedek’s Fire, with this negative energy that you receive, take it, transform it into something positive.

Now, what could that be? Number one, I'm now aware of what's happening, and I'm not going to let myself become susceptible to their pitfalls. That starts to put up protective barriers. That's a positive thing. Now I know that if evil exists, well, then so does good. So there is a God, and what the Bible says is true. God does love me. So instead of using that information to confirm evil exists and it's out there, and it's operating, and it's terrible, use it to confirm that God exists, and that all his promises will come true if you're patient. Right? It's all going to come true.

21:08 - High Vibration Habits for Daily Life

Simone: Well, and just another example, if you need something more immediate with results that you can actually see, and are tangible. I know I said, be selfish, all you can do is take care of yourself. But if you're like, “I can't be selfish. I have to help people. I had to reach out. I have to make a difference, make a change in the world.” What you can do is you can take that anger, whatever that thing is, whatever has so deeply affected you, and do small things to us. Or I mean, to us, they're probably big things, but in the grand scheme of things, they're probably small. But everything starts with a little step. So if it's, if it's, you need to help the homeless, go to a soup kitchen and cook a good meal for your local homeless. Okay?

There are things you could do right now to make a difference, a positive impact in other people's lives. Like you said, there is a ripple effect. You may not be curing cancer, okay? But you can have a pretty large effect on your local community by just feeding the homeless. You will make someone's day. And that is something, and that will raise your vibration, raise your emotional, you'll feel so good that you helped and made a little bit of a difference.

Guy: And that was going to be my second point. Taking and doing something constructive with it. All right, the first one is understanding that you're not going to be stuck here forever. The second one is taking that and turning it into something positive immediately for yourself. So you could do something nice for another human being, right? You can just do something nice for yourself. If you don't have the means to go out there and do that, that's fine. But just try to take that energy and put it into something constructive that advances you into a positive direction. That's my advice.

Simone: Another great example, if you don't like to people, I don't like to people. I'm an empath. I really don't like to people. Volunteer at your local animal shelter. They love volunteers. You can just go in and volunteer and just play with the dogs, play with the cats. They need exercise. They need human companionship. They need play time. But yeah, you can go and play with the kittens, play with the puppies, take them on a walk. You can feed them. You can donate toys. They need all that stuff. And yeah, if you don't want to people, go to an animal shelter. It's so good for your soul. It really is.

Guy: So, to reiterate, and how to come up with a plan of attack, because one of the things I don't like is how individuals talk about doom and gloom, but they don't get people a plan of attack. So here's your plan of attack as a magician of the light. You now know something awful is happening. You've read the Epstein files. That fire is rising within you, you want to do something. But despite all your rage, you're still just a rat in a cage.

What do you do? You take that energy. You acknowledge what's happening within you. The fire is rising, I'm passionate. I'm not angry, I'm passionate. Take that fire. It's no longer anger, it's passion. Now do something constructive to make the world a better place. Volunteer, do something nice for yourself or your family, or your neighbor, or your friends. Volunteer to help animals, okay? There's a lot of places that are benevolent that could use your help. You can transform the world with that energy and not just the outside world but the world within you and prevent yourself from being dragged down into the lower frequency and lower vibrational thoughts that they want you to have.

Okay, so that's your plan of attack now. This is a very, very short crash course in Melchizedek’s Fire. And it gets more complicated now. I don't want anyone to go in out there, tame the ego. “I know how to,” this gets a little more complicated than that. This is more of a hip pocket class. But now you have a plan of attack moving forward on what to do when you feel that passion rising within you. Okay.

Simone: Awesome. Very well said. You guys, share in the comments, get on Discord, chat with us, send us an email. We want to hear about what was your awakening journey. How has that been? How did other people treat you? Like, did you have people acting like you're crazy, people who've known you for years, your family and your friends and your coworkers, and now all of a sudden you're crazy? We want to know. We want to hear about your journey. We've all been there. And how did you overcome it? How did you move forward with that? Or did you kind of take a step back and try to reset and keep your sanity, you know what I mean?

That's really what it comes down to. It's about educating yourself and maintaining your sanity. We all have different thresholds. We all have that line where we're like, okay, this is it. We can't cross it. Like, if we cross it, it's the point of no return. Some bad shit's gonna happen, you know? So we want to hear your story. And if you have any questions, send in your questions. We would love to hear from you and dive in deeper if you have, you know, just like mind-shattering questions. We welcome all of them.

Guy: Yeah, we'll do the best we can. We don't know everything, but we'll do the best we can. If not, hopefully find a resource that can point us all in the right direction. There's a lot of good questions that are asked. And sometimes I'm like, “Man, I don't know.”

Simone: We don't know everything, but we'll try. We'll try to figure it out for you guys. You'll do your research thing that you do.

Guy: I'll do the best I can from my perspective, which isn't all-encompassing. Only God's perspective is all-encompassing, but I'll do the best I can from my perspective. But yeah, don't let them get you caught up. That’s the main thing, don't get caught up in their game.

A lot of people were wondering, “Why is this happening? Why are they allowing this to happen now?” It’s because they're trying to drag you down further. They know there's nothing you can physically do about it. There isn't. What are you going to do? Try to go out there and stop them. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. You're just going to end up getting yourself hurt. And Jesus warns us not to try to do that. So, render unto Caesar what is his. Once again, the words of our Lord Jesus Christ. I don't mean to get too Bible-thumpered, but yeah, it'll save your butt. Okay, don't get too angry and stay focused on yourself and stay balanced.

27:33 - Why is The Great Awakening Happening Now?

Simone: All right, so let's move on to the questions. We have a question from Kelly the Jabberwock.

Guy: Kelly, hey Kelly.

Simone: Guy has mentioned that he believes there is currently an awakening of spiritually gifted people. What do you think that the end purpose for this is? Is it to drive out demons so that more people can be saved at the end of times?

Guy: Yes and no. It's not so much the demons that are the problem. It's deeper than that. Demons are just minions. The whole point is to try to trap your soul. That's the whole point of this game is to trap you into a lower vibrational. What we just talked about, that's the whole point. It's to ultimately, when you're done here in the neutral realm, to drag you down lower to be with them, to try to keep you from rejoining with God and seeing your destiny fulfilled. Being with God is your ultimate destiny. That's a really good question. So did you want to? I'm sorry.

Simone: Well, I don't think that our purpose is to drive out demons.

Guy: No.

Simone: We're just trying to survive. This is their world. This is Lucifer's world. This is their playground. It's not about driving out demons. It's about protecting yourself, safeguarding yourself, your loved ones, your dwelling from infiltration. So you want to protect yourself from that, from ever happening so that you don't have to drive them out. You know what I mean? So, and in order to do that, you really have to live a life of faith and...

Guy: Positive energy.

Simone: Yeah, positive energy and recognize God's power and His authority and pray. Not saying go to church. We never say go to church because...

Guy: The church is corrupt.

Simone: All the faiths are corrupt.

Guy: All the faiths are corrupted. So, the only thing that you got to remember what Jesus says, and this is part of the awakening question, the kingdom of God is within you. God's there. Just gotta let Him in. That's it. Let it open up the door to your heart and your mind and your body to God and let Him dwell with you. And all your answers and all your problems will be solved. It sounds easier said than done, though, because it is easier said than done.

So The Great Awakening is to counter the lies of the dragon, Lucifer. That's what The Great Awakening is happening, because subconsciously and innately, the human spirit, the human mind knows. The existence that we're living is wrong. It doesn't feel right. Everyone keeps saying the same thing. “This doesn't feel right.” There's a kind of conscious thinking happening right now. Everyone's like, “this grind doesn't feel right. This world doesn't feel right. I don't like this.”

Everyone's searching for the answers, but a lot of people look in the wrong places. Right? They're turning deeper into the program. A lot of people look into politics. “Oh, socialism. No, this, that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the answer.” It's not the answer. Because you're not supposed to be here. So everyone's still trying to, you know, everyone's just kind of thumbing around in the dark, not knowing where we're supposed to be. “None of this is right. No one has the answer.” The answer is God.

That's the answer. That's where you're supposed to be. That's the reason why everything feels so wrong when you're here. And we're trying to get back to that. That's been the ultimate story. That's been the ultimate theme of the story of the human race, is trying to get back to where we're supposed to be, ever since the fall from the Garden of Eden. So I hope that answers your question. The Great Awakening is the innate human spirit responding to the lies, getting tired of it. And eventually, I believe everyone's going to unplug, except for those who are not written in the Book of Life. And Jesus will ultimately be victorious.

31:10 - Why Spiritual Awakening is So Painful

Simone: All right, question two. This one comes from Chad.

Guy: Hey, Chad.

Simone: Why does waking up feel more like losing everything than gaining clarity? I feel this one. I feel this one.

Guy: Well, go ahead.

Simone: Well, I feel like we talked about it throughout this discussion already. Yeah. I mean, I've said it also in prior. This awakening journey is painful. It is not some fluffy, hippy-dippy, smoking weed. Like, “It's all about love, man!” That's bullsh-t! I mean, give me some f-cking, give me some psychedelics, man.

Guy: I wish it was that easy.

Simone: I would love to experience that trip. But, no. When you start seeing things for what they really are, it's like the walls start crumbling down. It's like an avalanche. It's dangerous. It's painful. It's Kim Kardashian, ugly crying! You start questioning your sanity, your sense of self. You realize, holy shit, like, from being a child, everything I learned in school is a lie. It's all twisted. You know? And then you want to do something great with your life. You want to cure cancer. You want to do something great. So you become a doctor. You go to med school to become a doctor. But the thing is, the material you are learning is also a fucking lie.

All school does, I'm not talking about private, I'm talking about the public, the public from grade school all the way to college, all you are meant to do there is to be a sheeple, to learn what they want you to learn and to regurgitate it. You don't think for yourself. They don't teach you to think for yourself. They teach you, memorize this text and then repeat it back. What kind of a life is that? The people that make the most drastic changes and influence the most people are the people who dropped out of college because they figured out at a certain point, “I can learn more truthful things, more impactful things if I teach myself, if I go out there, dig for it, find the truth instead of just memorizing material.”

Guy: Wasn't Bill Gates a college dropout? Something like that. Yeah, but I mean, he was born to a wealthy family, but they taught him a thing for himself. I think he was smart enough to, he's a genius, he's a genius, people don't like him. You have to acknowledge he's a smart man. I think he saw the system for what it was and was like, “This is stupid.” Just like, “I don't need these people to teach me to remember things and I'll just build my own way.” So yeah, and that's the thing about the mind, right?

You surrender to the confines of how they want you to think or you can think for yourself or both. You can gain a base knowledge and then go from there, which is I think is what the majority of the people awakening are doing right now. It's not easy, the birth pains that we talked about earlier and that the Bible speaks about, and Jesus tells you in the synoptic gospels over and over again, it's difficult, it's hard.

The world that you know become shattered, right? And you become aware of the evil that transpires, that you don't readily see every day. It's happening as we speak right now, it's awful. You have to persevere and have faith. It's easier said than done, but you have to persevere and have faith, and like Simone said earlier, focus on yourself and rising above. As cliche as it sounds, rise above, rise above the negativity, rise above the evil, rise above the hate, rise above all of it. Leave it all behind. This is one of the reasons why Jesus tells us, let go of this world. You have to learn to let go. That's one of his main lessons to the apostles, let go of it. Because if you don't and you ground yourself to it, that's when you become susceptible to all the evil plans. This is the reason why it hurts to awaken, because you got to let go.

When you find out Christmas is actually an evil holiday, celebrating talismans that belong to an ancient evil dictator who murdered people, then you start to realize, wait a second, this is the memories that I clung when I was, if you had a family, you were opening presents on Christmas morning, you had so much fun, that was so much fun, but we were giving power to something that was utilizing that, using energetic alchemy, and turning our love into something very evil, to empower themselves to the state of the world that we have right now. And then you realize you have to walk away from it. You have to walk away from a lot of those traditions. That's painful. I know. When we did that Christmas episode, upset a lot of people.

Simone: We got, that's by far the most views we've ever had on an episode.

Guy: It upset a lot of people, a lot of people were upset. A lot of thumbs downs, a lot of naysayers. And that's fine. I get it. Because it hurts to awaken. It's not easy. I didn't take any of it personal.

Simone: Yeah. And I think one person was like, “What the fuck are you talking about?”

Guy: Yeah.

Simone: I was like, I love that response. We know there's a lot of people who refuse to wake up. They don't, they're not ready for it. They're not ready for it.

Guy: Not ready to unplugged from the matrix. And that's not their fault. I just say you're a different phase in your spiritual journey. I hope to see you at the finish line. I hope we're all there at the finish line with giving Jesus a big old hug.

37:01 - How to Find Inner Peace in Chaos

Simone: Like Guy was saying, it is easier said than done.

Guy: Oh, yeah.

Simone: And even as an empath, okay, I've always been, as a child, I've always been a big believer in an eye for an eye. And I will cut a bitch, okay? I've always had my mom telling me, well, everyone, everyone, my husband, my mom, “Rise above it, be the better person.” And I'm like, why do I always have to be the better person? Like, I just want to fuck some shit up. They get away with it. Why can't I? And then I had to reset and be like, okay.

Guy: So you don't do something irrational.

Simone: What I'm saying is, even for me, it's hard.

Guy: It’s even hard for me.

Simone: I'm not perfect. We're not perfect.

Guy: Yeah. I'm a flawed being. Sometimes I see some people doing crazy stuff, and heck, I want to punch them in the face. I mean, I see it. I'm just like, oh, goodness. But you got to try not to, guys. We got to try our best to be good people and to rise above. I know it's, as cliche as it sounds, and it's awful. A lot of people are like, “Oh, my goodness, it’s awful.”

That does not mean roll over and die. That does not mean give up. See, this is what this, now we got to go back to the balance of things, because people love to take things and they love to run with it. And sometimes they run a little too far with it. There's a measure of balance and common sense that need to take place. And those are two things that are lacking in society nowadays. Does that mean let people just walk all over you and do evil? No, that does not mean that. Okay.

When Jesus says turn the other cheek, what he means is don't go overboard and like maul someone over a small slight. Don't do that, right? But he also says that you need to know a time when to put down the cross and pick up the sword. You need to know both. But the problem with society now is that everyone's just picking up the sword. So violence begets violence, anger begets anger.

Learning to balance things is very important. So if someone calls me a butt face, right? Does that mean I'm going to whip out my sword and take their head off their shoulders or run them through? No. Okay. So calm down. Now, if someone you don't know, some creepy stranger, is trying to walk off with your child, now you unsheathe your sword. So know the balance. Know when to respond, when not to respond. All right? And never fight with anger. Never do things with anger. Every time you do something, it's with love. Okay? “Well, how can you fight with love?” Well you fight for preservation of life.

Simone: Yes.

Guy: That's love.

Simone: One thousand percent.

Guy: The mother and father defending their home from the intruder is not angry at the intruder. Okay? You don't fight with rage and anger at the intruder. You fight with, “I love my kids. I fight to preserve my love for their life, their right to live.” That's what I'm doing. So don't be consumed by the hatred that's going to drag you into the lower frequencies. Okay?

This once again, I've been giving a whole lot. This has been one huge crash course in the inner alchemy. Inner alchemy is a very useful tool to navigate the circumstances of this world. It gets more complex than what we've talked about here. Me and Simone have more of a grasp on it because we've gone through a lot of the arcane preparatory stages that are required to bring into utilization. I suggest some people just read, if you're awakening, read some books on the inner alchemy. Okay? Read some books on the psychological aspects of the arcane. Because a lot of the evil controllers of this world are trying to take control of your mind so that they can take advantage of that ability that you have, okay?

40:54 - Join Our Spiritual Awakening Community

Simone: And we do have a future episode that we are planning on doing, talking about the materials, the books you should, like specifically giving you the books you would want to dig into if this is something that you're interested in doing.

Guy: Yeah.

Simone: And that's coming up soon.

Guy: We’ll talk about books from the Bible, which is the perfect place to start with your journey as a magician of the right-handed path so that you can learn how to view the world properly. Part of the arcane preparatory phase is how to view the world. If you don't know how to view the world, then you're lost in trying to manipulate it. You can't control it if you don't know what's happening. You don't have a grasp on it. And then the lies will take over. And then when the lies take over, they ground you to a reality that's not actually yours.

Simone: Right. So, that was requested by a few people asking. They wanted this information, so we're not getting into it today.

Guy: Yeah.

Simone: But it is coming up soon-ish, a few episodes down the road. We already have some stuff planned.

Guy: So then all my crazy ramblings might make sense in the future. That's good news.

Simone: Or not. We'll see. So, Chad, I hope that answered your question. That was, we went in many circles and many tangents. I'm so sorry. But also, I mean, also for Kelly as well, I think we might have gone off on a few tangents. Anyway.

Guy: Did we answer the question? I hope we did.

Simone: I think we did. I think we did. I'm going to say we did, but feel free to reword your question and send it back in if we need to tackle it again.

So let's go ahead and get into our announcements. As always, friendly reminder that new episodes of The Veil Between podcast comes out every second and fourth Wednesday, except for the last one that came out a day late. And I am so sorry, but it was a beast of an episode, The Fae.

Guy: It was a long episode.

Simone: It was a very long episode. I ended up cutting out a lot. It was like a two-hour episode when I started, and I chopped it down to like 120, I think.

Guy: Yeah, you did a good job.

Simone: Yeah. So it was, we went really in-depth down a lot of rabbit holes, a lot of tangents, and we covered a lot. But so I will do my best. I'm doing my best to stick to this every other Wednesday, second and fourth. And then we do have our Occult Pop, which comes out every first and third Wednesday.

Join our Discord. Like, find your people. This is where your people are. We're trying to build a community of like-minded people, people going through the same awakening, the painful shit, who have experienced things, ghosts, demons, something scratching at the wall, their pets freaking out, hissing and growling at nothing. You know, share your stories. We're here to help. And so get in there. Get active. Start chatting. It's just therapeutic, honestly, to talk with other people, to know that you're not alone.

Guy: You're not alone, yeah.

Simone: That you're not facing these unexplainable things by yourself. There is a community. Everyone has your back. They may not be going through the same thing you're going through exactly, but they understand.

Guy: Yeah, we're all going through different paths right now.

Simone: Yup. Our current book club read on Fable is Occult America by Mitch Harwitz. We're taking our time on this. I'm reading this one very slowly. I know some people already finished, but it is not too late to join because I am going slow. So it's not too late to join. Join the conversation, join the discussion, read a good book with us. And also let us know if there's a book that you would be interested in reading or you want us to talk about and discuss as a community. Anything within the realm of paranormal, occult, secret societies, magic, emerald tablets, like anything occultish, anything, conspiracy theorist, alien shit, I'm down for it all. So submit your requests.

Please subscribe, like, share, subscribe. If you love this show, the best thing you can do, we would love it if you would share it with friends, family members, I mean, people who get it. You know, not the family members that don't get it, that think you're crazy. Share it with the people that are on the same wavelength. Share it, like it, subscribe. That helps us a lot. If you're on a platform where you can rate and review, that would help as well. I think that's all I have. Do you have anything else?

Guy: No, I think you covered it all. Thank you. Like, share and subscribe. And we're gonna keep trying to grow, keep trying to spread awareness and help others.

Simone: Yup. You can find me on Instagram and TikTok @ArcanaDistrict.

Guy: You can find me on Instagram and TikTok @GuyQuintero.

Simone: Yup. And we do have a link in our bios for our Stan Store where you can book a consultation with us to see if we can help you see what's going on. We'll analyze the situation and help you handle it. First step is to see what you can do to handle it yourself. Because we can't travel, you know, and we want to help.

Guy: Yeah, we do. We have the means to travel if the client is willing to subsidize us for travel. But not everybody has that kind of budget. Like, Simone flew out recently. Not everyone has that kind of budget. So we completely understand. But we're going to try to reach out to those people who need help, you know, around the country through this method.

Simone: Yup. I have in the past, done over the phone saging, where I walked the client through. And I was able to see in my mind's eye, with my third eye, I was able to see their entire space. Like, I knew where the rooms were. I told them turn left, turn right, go here. I saw the negative entity. I saw the shadow, and I directed them. And as soon as I said, “It's done, it's gone.” The person, the client, was so just relieved. And they literally said like, “Oh my God, it's done.” Like, they acknowledged, like, the environment completely changed. They described it as very stagnant, heavy feeling. There was no airflow, even with all the windows open and everything, there was no airflow. It was very stagnant. And as soon as I said, “It's done, it's gone,” they said they felt a rush of the most refreshing breeze just go through the entire apartment. And it was immediate. And so this is what we're trying to do for you guys on these calls is to walk you through and give you the power to do it yourself.

Guy: Yes.

Simone: Give you the tools, the education, the ability and the power, the confidence to do it for yourself.

Guy: Like He-Man said, “I have the power!” You do.

Simone: Yeah. And of course, also on that link is the free download for the Beginner's Psychic Shield Ritual. It's free. Download it and do the ritual and let us know how it helped.

Guy: You have the power. Your mind is a lot stronger than you know.

Simone: And with that, thank you for joining us again. We'll see you next time.

Guy: Thanks for joining us.

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