Are we being spoon-fed a specific narrative to distract us from the truth? In this episode of Occult Pop, we dive deep into the legacy of The X-Files, the "Supernatural before Supernatural," to examine how it predicted our modern era of government conspiracies and UFO disclosure. Whether you are a fan of Mulder and Scully or a truth seeker navigating the "dancing bear" distractions of today’s headlines, this discussion explores how the government weaves truth into fiction to normalize the outrageous. Join Danica Simone and Guy Quintero as we discuss interdimensional entities, the compartmentalization of power, and why the X-Files remains the ultimate guide for anyone questioning the official narrative in a world of AI-rewritten history and digital manipulation. If you're looking for a tribe of like-minded truth seekers, you’ve found your home at Arcana District.
Transcript & Show Notes
00:00 - The X-Files: The OG Paranormal Series
Danica Simone: This is Occult Pop, where we examine popular culture through an occult lens. I am Danica Simone, and this is my co-host…
Guy Quintero: Hi, I'm Guy Quintero, everyone.
Simone: Today, we're gonna talk about X-Files.
Guy: X-Files!
Simone: Who doesn't love X-Files? Listen, this was the Supernatural before Supernatural.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: It's the OG and all these other shows, I think pretty much any paranormal show, even movies, even, but really the shows, you can see if you watch X-Files, you'll be like, I've seen a lot of these episodes. Like the concept, the same exact concept of each episode on Supernatural.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: I've even seen a lot of them on Charmed, like the original Charmed, not the reboot. I haven't even watched that, so I couldn't even tell you. But…
Guy: I didn't like the reboot.
Simone: I didn’t even waste my time. But there’s, clearly, they take a lot of ideas from X-Files. X-Files is the OG, guys. If you haven't watched it, watch it. There's like over 200 episodes. There's, there's a lot of episodes.
Guy: There's a lot.
Simone: So if you don't know, X-Files ran from 1993 to 2002 originally. So after that break, it went several years, like I think like 15 years or so, and then they came out with like two additional seasons. But that was the original time that it ran. And it's an American science fiction drama. FBI agents Scully, a skeptic, and Mulder, a believer, attempt to uncover a government conspiracy to hide evidence of extraterrestrial activity, starring Gillian Anderson, David Duchovny, and Mitch Pileggi. Which a lot of you may know, Mitch Pileggi plays the grandfather in Supernatural.
Guy: Good actor.
Simone: You guys, if you look at the cast, it's so funny because a lot of people crossed over between X-Files and Supernatural. It's so funny. I mean, you got Crowley, you got Rufus.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: You even have Bobby Singer.
Guy: Bobby Singer, yeah.
Simone: He did one random episode. Rufus was in it for a few seasons.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: So many actors were in X-Files, and it's just so amazing.
Guy: Yeah, it's really cool.
Simone: I love it. I love to see like I don't want to say they're typecasts, but you can clearly tell that these actors have a love for the paranormal and sci-fi, like aliens and stuff. So anyway, so if you are a fan of Supernatural and have not yet watched X-Files, watch it. You're gonna love it.
Guy: Yeah, it's a good show.
02:23 - Mulder & Scully: Believers vs. Skeptics
Simone: So Scully is the skeptic, you know, and Mulder is the one that, he's the believer. He wants to believe everything. And the thing about the show is it, it, again, they are FBI, so they are in government, Mulder is like the outcast, like black sheep, and he's sent to the basement to work on the X-Files. They call him Spooky Mulder. And then poor Skully is like assigned to monitor him. It starts off that she’s a mole, you know, sent to watch him, go on these investigations with him, and then report. Not just on the investigation, but report on him, and you know, how he responded, and how he reacted, and what he believes was happening in each investigation. Right? That's how it starts. And then, pretty fast, she can’t quite explain some things. And so, over the series, throughout the various seasons, she starts to believe a little bit, you know, a little bit more each season, I feel like.
Guy: Yeah, she starts coming around, yeah.
Simone: So what I find fascinating is, I feel like at the beginning, he is blindly a believer. And then as they start finding out certain things, he's like the government is… First, he's like the government just is covering up the truth. They don't want us to know what's really happening with the aliens, that aliens are real and that they have UFOs that they are reverse engineering and whatnot, and that there's a hybrid program going on, all run by the government, that they're in league with these aliens. But then, as you go through the various seasons, he starts, you know, questioning the blind, you know, that he was blindly believing this narrative. He starts questioning, the government is lying to us.
Not only… Like maybe aliens aren't real. It's all government. They're running this narrative that they've created this narrative to make us think that these are real, so that they can do other things behind our backs without us, you know, like kind of like, you know, keeping you so invested in watching the basketball game that you don't see the dancing bear going across the screen. You know what I'm saying? Like that whole experiment? You know what I'm saying? Like they're trying to keep us entertained and our focus over here while they're doing other things over here.
04:46 - UFO Disclosure or Distraction? The Epstein Files Connection
Simone: And that's something that a lot of people have said about this disclosure and the releasing of the UFO files. They’re like, people are speculating and saying that they're doing this, the timing is not coincidental. That it's right after the Epstein files were released.
Guy: Yup.
Simone: Or that there's a war brewing, you know, that a lot of stuff is going on. So are they just releasing the UFO files to get our attention on that and off of something else that's going on, you know? The timing, they were trying to say that the whole Roswell thing happened right after World War II, right? They were trying to get our attention off of the atomic bomb, which was devastating, right? So they were like, “Oh, this happened, but…”
Guy: Well…
Simone: …let's move on and look at aliens.
Guy: Well, actually, they really didn't want anyone going around Roswell or Area 51 or anything like that. I don’t know, I don't think that was a distraction. I think that was something we just accidentally, the people accidentally uncovered, from what it seems like. But I think that they kept it as a distraction while they moved everything away. Cause that was an experimental, you know, a base for experimental aircraft and other things, other technologies that they were dealing with. But once people started flocking in the area, I'm pretty sure they picked up and moved. But they kept it as a distraction. So they definitely did…
Simone: I doubt there’s anything there.
Guy: …as a diversion. There's nothing there anymore now, just except for nostalgia, but yeah, the show is amazing. It covers a lot of truths that reflect reality as well. And the more Mulder and Scully dive deep into it, the more they start to realize it's just rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole.
6:14 - Government Compartmentalization & The Freemason Connection
Guy: Right? Everything's compartmentalized, and that's pretty much how our government is structured. And so I know how, when from my time in the service, that’s how everything was structured, everything was compartmentalized, need-to-know basis. And then one step up and your, whatever your perspective was from the previous rank or previous grade or previous job or position was completely changed and eschewed. Yeah. There's a lot to say for how the government does things. And it's also very similar how Freemasons do things. Compartmentalize everything. Each step changes how you perceive things, how much you know, and how much you're able to access.
6:48 - Hidden in Plain Sight: How Truth is Weaved Into Fiction
Guy: So yeah, it's one of the things that, I think, X-Files was one of the original truther shows out there that really helped open your eyes to what's happening. But I also think, to some aspect, it was part of the government saying, “Hey, yeah, this is really going on.” Right? Because it goes back to what we were saying in previous episodes of our flagship show, The Veil Between podcast, we talk about how knowing, subtly knowing, and knowing a few truths and accepting it, is kind of like surrendering your free will to it. Right? So they give us little truths, little hidden, they weave it into the fiction. And that way, we just kind of subconsciously, and to some extent consciously, accept it for what it is. And that way, we're not that shocked when we see it transpire in reality.
Simone: Yeah.
Guy: And we kind of just accept it, right? So all the evil that's transpiring, well, you see the Epstein List and the wars and all of that stuff, we just kind of accept it now as normal. It's not normal. It shouldn't be normal, but evil has been normalized. And the Bible said that that would happen as well. Like it said in the last days, you know, evil will look good and good will look evil.
Simone: Yeah. I feel like that's happening now, like, we’re spoon-fed certain things, and over the years, like I'm just saying, since the 90s when I was a kid, you know, over the years, they drop in something new, and you're like, “Okay, it's not that bad.” At first, it seems a little outrageous, and then they're like, “Well, how is it any worse than this?” And it kind of like subtly escalates, you know what I mean?
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: And they spoon-feed you a little bit more outrageousness, and you adjust to it. And they try to act like this is normal. This is normal. This is our normal. Okay, you should believe that this is normal. And so after decades of doing that, all of a sudden, you know, and then the people who talk out about it, saying, “This is not normal, this is what normal really is,” then they're demonized. Like, the people saying, you know, that these outrageous things are normal are then, you know, they, you know what I mean? They then make these people look like crazy religious fanatics, and trying to discredit our faith and our religion.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: And discredit God and Jesus, and you know, try to get us to turn our back on that. Trying to say that's crazy.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: You know? It’s like, whoa, man. Yeah, it's just really, it's just really crazy. And like you said, it's more easily digestible when they mix it in with truths. You know?
Guy: They mix a truth in with fiction, yeah.
Simone: Well, it's like 20 truths in one lie.
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: But the lie is big. But you're like, “Well, if everything else is true, you know, this has to be true, too.” Right? I just it's it's. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah, it's crazy. And the more you see them go, you know, delve deeper into the X-Files and all the things they start encountering along different seasons, you start to realize… I started… The only thing the show did was reaffirm everything I learned in my studies. Like, okay, yeah, the Bible says it's true and all of this weird stuff, and what the old stories, you know, the Mahabharata, the different, they call them mythologies, the different other ancient faiths start talking about all these weird things like flying vessels and little green men, the Fay, all that stuff. It starts to come together when you start watching the show, and you're just like, “Hey, wait a second.” Like you said, the truths start coming out, and how they plan on utilizing it, showing different aspects of our government that are compromised.
10:15 - Are Aliens Among Us?
Guy: Showing, I mean, one example I found very, very prolific was when the alien was living a life of a man, and he was, you know, disguised as a baseball player, that episode. For me, that really hit close to home because it kind of showed, to me, it was like, hey, some of these celebrities might be demons or fallen angels. Some of these government politicians may be demons or fallen angels, woven in society with you. And then that goes back to what the Bible says is, be careful, you might be entertaining angels unaware. Right? It's very true. You know, Job, when he was in Genesis, Job was entertaining angels. They looked like men. So you're not necessarily know what you're dealing with until, you know, you really get to the deep nitty-gritty about it. And the Bible warns us about these things. So it's crazy how they show the different reflections of reality and faith and all of that, and how it all kind of coincides together.
Simone: And you have all of these different races of aliens, one of them being Nordics. Right?
Guy: Yeah.
Simone: Which just looks like, almost like us, right? They're a little bit taller, but they have really crystal clear blue eyes and blonde hair. They look very much like us. And it kind of sounds like a depiction of like what people's, you know, really old paintings of angels look like, that you'll find in museums and stuff, right? Aren't they all blonde? You know? Extra tall and…
Guy: A couple of angels took those forms, and now all of a sudden everybody just takes it and runs with it.
Simone: Yeah, but it makes me wonder, is this what they're calling the Nordic aliens?
Guy: Yeah, exactly.
Simone: You know? And the thing that they portray a lot in X-Files is the double narrative and the controlled opposition. And it's like, the lies are so intertwined, and the further you fall down the rabbit hole, you know, it's hard to be like, who is telling the truth at all? Like, it's all a lie. Everything's a lie. And so it's like, who do you believe? You know, and all I can say is just do your own research, anything that you find of interest that you're like, I wanna learn more about it, don't take it at face value, for what, you know, the source that you find initially, go and hunt and dig.
12:33 - Is AI Rewriting History? Digital Media & The Mandela Effect
Simone: And that’s another thing that I want to just, you know, caution, since AI has come out on the internet. Like AI has been around for a really long time. The government, government has everything before we do, like the common public has. The government has had AI for a really long time. Okay? But now that it's been set loose on the internet, I do not doubt that the AI is rewriting things.
And I did hear somebody say, the progression of tapes, from VHS to DVD, then to streaming. And same with the music, the music was on actual cassette tapes, then CDs, and then digitally. All of that stuff, if you think about, I know we have probably, because of you, we have a lot of bookish people who love to read. And so if you like, I have, you know, Kindle Unlimited and stuff like that, and I read a lot of eBooks because of convenience, but every so often, if the author of the book has, you know, they updated it, did it, redid the draft, they did extra editing, or whatever, and so they have an update to do. They push it automatically, and that old version is gone, and you now have that new version of that book.
They're doing that with their movies. Right? And they're doing that with music. Any kind of media, if it's on the internet, if it's streaming, it can be edited and revised, and you don't even know. And that might be part of the reason why we have some Mandela effects, because people are like, “Oh, I swear it used to say this, and now they are saying this.” It probably was, and they changed it.
Guy: Probably, yeah. I wouldn't put anything past them.
Simone: That’s just an example. But anything on the internet, any, you know, people who had done blog posts over the years, people who posted videos, that stuff, I think AI might be rewriting stuff or editing it, and it's really hard to find what is real anymore. And also with AI, it's hard to tell, anytime you see a new video, a new evidence-based video of I saw a UFO, I saw this, I saw that. It's really hard to tell, like, is that something that somebody actually recorded, or did they take that recording and then photoshopped something in the sky, or something like that? You know what I mean? It's really hard to tell what's real and what's fake.
Guy: That was a hell of a tangent. But yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. It's something to think about. Food for thought.
15:10 - X-Files vs. Supernatural: Monsters vs. Aliens Debate
Simone: Let us know, have you seen the X-Files? You know, which do you like better, X-Files or Supernatural? Let's really get heated in the comments section, guys! Let's start a war! I mean, if you're a youngin’ and you got your first taste for, you know, paranormal stuff through Supernatural and you have not yet seen X-Files, you are missing out.
Guy: I'm pretty sure the two fanbases are nearly the same.
Simone: I think so.
Guy: I will also add to that caveat. Let's add another question. When you watch X-Files, do you prefer the alien episodes or do you prefer the monster episodes? Because I love the monster episodes.
Simone: And I love the alien episodes. I go there for the aliens. And also, they have really weird, like bug ones, like insect ones. I'm like eeewwww, I can’t!
Guy: Yeah, those are, see, I like the monster episodes. I like the monster of the week episodes of X-Files, but I know that they kind of alternate. They do monster, alien, monster, alien, monster, alien. Sometimes they'll weave in like a conspiracy theory, and then they'll do…
Simone: I love those.
Guy: Like they weave in them all. But my favorite ones always the monster of the week. I love their monster of the weak ones. So, let us know in the comment section which type of episode you like, you know, within X-Files. And which series do you prefer more, X-Files or Supernatural? That's a really good question.
Simone: Yeah.
Guy: Because that's a hard one. I love both series so much. That concludes our episode. Please like, share, and subscribe. And thank you for joining us in this episode of Occult Pop.
Simone: See you next time.
Guy: Take care, fam.
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